Dr. Susan Murphy Roshi is a writer, radio producer and film director, film professor, as well as the founding teacher of Zen Open Circle in Sydney Australia. She has a special interest in the way Zen and indigenous Australian sense of 'care for country' come together.

Susan is the author of the book, Upside Down Zen, and her latest book is Minding the Earth, Mending the World: The Offer We Can No Longer Refuse, a Zen response to our slow-burning planetary emergency. We discuss the meaning of wild and its apparent antithesis, discipline, and much more.

♫ Music is "In the Margins" by Ani Difranco